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M*A*S*H play by Tim Kelly [1973?]
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Will Dockery
2003-08-30 14:47:35 UTC
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Can any one shed any light on the M*A*S*H play by Tim Kelly, aparently
written in the early 1970s, and aparently based on Richard Hooker's
novel?

All I've found so far searching this newsgroup is:

"...The full length M*A*S*H script and one act play adapted from
Richard
Hooker's novel by Tim Kelly & the additional sound effects tapes
(which
the script lists as containing: "artillery fire, siren, helicopters,
Oriental song and music, telephone, howling wind, crickets, and gun
ending football game") -- can be found at:

[link does not work]

It's worth adding to a MASH library or having a look at if you're
interested in seeing a stage take of MASH, (FYI: watered down). For a
smaller scale/budget production I think it would play rather well.
Maybe next year I can convince 'em to stage it, eh? :)
Enjoy!

B. Kelly."

Such questions as: was this a play "authorized" by Hooker? And since
it's apparently based upon the novel *not* the film or television
versions, I'm interested in how the characters of Hawkeye and Trapper
come across... yet another alternate reality for the 4077..!

Unfortunately, the link doesn't work, for what was apparently a full
posting of the script... perhaps a copyright problem? So many
questions... anyone have any answers/comments? A link to the play
itself..? Should be fascinating, at the very least.
Will

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PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
2003-08-30 15:21:41 UTC
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Will Dockery <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Can any one shed any light on the M*A*S*H play by Tim Kelly, aparently
: written in the early 1970s, and aparently based on Richard Hooker's
: novel?

If it's the one I've read (and still probably have a copy of, somewhere),
it's a much-watered-down version intended for production by
schoolchildren.



Paul Gadzikowski, ***@iglou.com since 1995
http://members.iglou.com/scarfman - new cartoons August 29

"TRAPPER JOHN (embarrassed):"
Ironywaves
2003-08-30 15:29:28 UTC
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Post by PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
: Can any one shed any light on the M*A*S*H play by Tim Kelly, aparently
: written in the early 1970s, and aparently based on Richard Hooker's
: novel?
If it's the one I've read (and still probably have a copy of, somewhere),
it's a much-watered-down version intended for production by
schoolchildren.
http://members.iglou.com/scarfman - new cartoons August 29
"TRAPPER JOHN (embarrassed):"
That's apparently the one... Google search has turned up several school
productions of this play.
Will
David Brunt
2003-08-30 15:34:52 UTC
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Post by Ironywaves
Post by PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
If it's the one I've read (and still probably have a copy of, somewhere),
it's a much-watered-down version intended for production by
schoolchildren.
That's apparently the one... Google search has turned up several school
productions of this play.
Presumably they didn't include the Hotlips in the shower scene then....
Ironywaves
2003-08-30 16:09:13 UTC
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Post by PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
Post by Ironywaves
Post by PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
If it's the one I've read (and still probably have a copy of,
somewhere),
Post by Ironywaves
Post by PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
it's a much-watered-down version intended for production by
schoolchildren.
That's apparently the one... Google search has turned up several school
productions of this play.
Presumably they didn't include the Hotlips in the shower scene then....
Yeah, I'm curious about just *what* could be included...
Will
RNeill22
2003-08-30 21:26:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: M*A*S*H play by Tim Kelly [1973?]
Post by David Brunt
Presumably they didn't include the Hotlips in the shower scene then....
Yeah, I'm curious about just *what* could be included...
Will
I like the idea of a bunch of innocent-looking moppets singing the lyrics to
"Suicide Is Painless." Imagine how proud their parents in the audience would
be!
Ironywaves
2003-08-31 15:37:45 UTC
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"I'm interested in how the characters of Hawkeye and Trapper
come across... "
Like a couple of zitty teenagers who don't understand their lines. Of
course, the lines were written/adapted by someone who didn't
understand them either.
If you want to do something like this, look for Joseph Heller's stage
adaptation of CATCH-22. It's actually very interesting and much more
conceptual and theatrical that the kiddie version of MASH.
LC
Sounds very strange, like a Saturday morning cartoon or something...
understandable that it's pretty obscure.
Will
ShandaRose
2003-08-31 23:29:29 UTC
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I have a copy of the play somewhere in my fav. places. I started reading it,
but never read very far ... it sounded a lot like the book. I figured Tim
Kelly took the book and just made it into play format. Guess I was wrong.



"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is
not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's
indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.'' -
Elie Wiesel
Ironywaves
2003-09-01 05:09:55 UTC
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Post by ShandaRose
I have a copy of the play somewhere in my fav. places. I started reading it,
but never read very far ... it sounded a lot like the book. I figured Tim
Kelly took the book and just made it into play format. Guess I was wrong.
I'm still curious about the play... it must have been written with
someone's, Richard Hooker, perhaps' blessing... I wonder if it was produced
originally with adult actors, and where, and when..? Good or bad, the
historical aspect is still fascinating.
Will
Post by ShandaRose
"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is
not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's
indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's
indifference.'' -
Post by ShandaRose
Elie Wiesel
Larry Coressel
2003-09-01 20:11:34 UTC
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It wasn't produced for adults, it was strictly a High School version
for High School drama clubs to do. There was a company (I don't know
the name) that would buy the rights to certain properties and do this.
There are similar watered-down amateur versions of other 70's titles,
like "FAME," for example.
It's stupid, and to be avoided at all cost.

LC
PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
2003-09-01 21:57:57 UTC
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Larry Coressel <***@woh.rr.com> wrote:
: It wasn't produced for adults, it was strictly a High School version
: for High School drama clubs to do. There was a company (I don't know
: the name) that would buy the rights to certain properties and do this.

I've read their 'Winnie-the-Pooh', too. It captures the sourcework's
spirit exactly as well as the M*A*S*H one does.



Paul Gadzikowski, ***@iglou.com since 1995
http://members.iglou.com/scarfman - new cartoons August 29

"You know, it can't be any too *hot* down Eeyore's way around two in the
morning."
RNeill22
2003-09-01 23:28:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: M*A*S*H play by Tim Kelly [1973?]
: It wasn't produced for adults, it was strictly a High School version
: for High School drama clubs to do. There was a company (I don't know
: the name) that would buy the rights to certain properties and do this.
I've read their 'Winnie-the-Pooh', too. It captures the sourcework's
spirit exactly as well as the M*A*S*H one does.
I wonder if there's a kiddies-only version of Marat / Sade ?
Ironywaves
2003-09-02 05:42:18 UTC
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Post by PAUL GADZIKOWSKI
: It wasn't produced for adults, it was strictly a High School version
: for High School drama clubs to do. There was a company (I don't know
: the name) that would buy the rights to certain properties and do this.
I've read their 'Winnie-the-Pooh', too. It captures the sourcework's
spirit exactly as well as the M*A*S*H one does.
I have to ask... WHY did anyone write M*A*S*H* on a high school level..? It
doesn't make any sense, at first glance.
Will
ESolomonso
2003-09-02 06:34:17 UTC
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Date: 09/02/2003 1:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time
I have to ask... WHY did anyone write M*A*S*H* on a high school level..? It
doesn't make any sense, at first glance.
Will
What doesn't make sense? Just curious.

Eddie
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If I want to chew the fat, I'll eat a sandwich.
Hogne B. Pettersen
2003-09-01 22:03:06 UTC
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***@woh.rr.com (Larry Coressel) writes:

|
| There are similar watered-down amateur versions of other 70's titles, like
| "FAME," for example It's stupid, and to be avoided at all cost.
|

I see you're refering to the TV show called The Kids from Fame.....
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Larry Coressel
2003-09-02 09:57:27 UTC
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Post by Hogne B. Pettersen
I see you're refering to the TV show called The Kids from Fame.....
No, it actually was a silly watered-down stage adaptation of the
movie. The same company has also published truncated versions of
musicals like "Grease." Awful stuff.

I think the reason for all of this was to make cheap vehicles for
no-budget drama classes, civic theatres, etc...

LC
Dan
2003-09-02 17:27:43 UTC
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Found these on google:


http://www.westernschools.org/schools/whs/whsdramamashpage4.htm

http://wcpo.com/specials/2003/iraq/stories/local/91.html

Dan


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Larry Coressel
2003-09-03 00:38:05 UTC
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"It gives you a different thought on the war not like serious but also
how they form like everybody becomes one, like a family it gives you a
few different perspectives on how to look at the war..."

LC
Larry Coressel
2003-09-03 10:23:25 UTC
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I meant to write something after that lame quote:



I rest my case.


LC
ShandaRose
2003-09-02 08:44:20 UTC
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I just looked in my fav. places place and came up with the following link... it
appears to be the screenplay for the movie, tho I have NO idea how I got that.
I was looking for the play text, and I am still looking for that...

www.geocities.com/Hollywood/8200/Mash.txt

Shanda



"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is
not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's
indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference.'' -
Elie Wiesel
Ironywaves
2003-09-02 14:56:45 UTC
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Post by ShandaRose
I just looked in my fav. places place and came up with the following link... it
appears to be the screenplay for the movie, tho I have NO idea how I got that.
I was looking for the play text, and I am still looking for that...
www.geocities.com/Hollywood/8200/Mash.txt

Shanda

I found a link to the play text, supposedly, but it was a dead link. Perhaps
with the right use of keywords, there's a Google "cache" of this site, I
haven't run across it yet, though.

Yesterday, when I used "tim kelly" "m*a*s*h*" "play" and whatnot, I didn't
come up with a lot. Good luck, hope you can locate it... it may be terrible,
but I'm curious now just *how* terrible it really is, like watching a train
wreck...
Will
Post by ShandaRose
"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is
not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's
indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's
indifference.'' -
Post by ShandaRose
Elie Wiesel
Parry
2003-09-02 16:05:54 UTC
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I've been searching for it too........
found loads of references to people doing it but not the actual text

and thats the screen play not a transript of the movie
which will be interesting to read :)

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Post by ShandaRose
I just looked in my fav. places place and came up with the following link... it
appears to be the screenplay for the movie, tho I have NO idea how I got that.
I was looking for the play text, and I am still looking for that...
www.geocities.com/Hollywood/8200/Mash.txt
Shanda
"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is
not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's
indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's
indifference.'' -
Post by ShandaRose
Elie Wiesel
j***@gmail.com
2014-02-07 06:17:47 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Can any one shed any light on the M*A*S*H play by Tim Kelly, aparently
written in the early 1970s, and aparently based on Richard Hooker's
novel?
"...The full length M*A*S*H script and one act play adapted from
Richard
Hooker's novel by Tim Kelly & the additional sound effects tapes
(which
the script lists as containing: "artillery fire, siren, helicopters,
Oriental song and music, telephone, howling wind, crickets, and gun
[link does not work]
It's worth adding to a MASH library or having a look at if you're
interested in seeing a stage take of MASH, (FYI: watered down). For a
smaller scale/budget production I think it would play rather well.
Maybe next year I can convince 'em to stage it, eh? :)
Enjoy!
B. Kelly."
Such questions as: was this a play "authorized" by Hooker? And since
it's apparently based upon the novel *not* the film or television
versions, I'm interested in how the characters of Hawkeye and Trapper
come across... yet another alternate reality for the 4077..!
Unfortunately, the link doesn't work, for what was apparently a full
posting of the script... perhaps a copyright problem? So many
questions... anyone have any answers/comments? A link to the play
itself..? Should be fascinating, at the very least.
Will
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ironywaves
I have a copy right in my hand right now. I'm trying to find out if theeres any record for the 1st production of it. It's a full length with 2-acts in it. And I would say this would be under rated for high school production comparing to SHERLOCK HOLMES that was written by Kelly. And apparently that play was paid by Royalty fees, $50 for the first amateur production and $35 for each subsequent use.
Will Dockery
2014-05-19 01:55:03 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
Post by Will Dockery
Can any one shed any light on the M*A*S*H play by Tim Kelly, aparently
written in the early 1970s, and aparently based on Richard Hooker's
novel?
"...The full length M*A*S*H script and one act play adapted from
Richard
Hooker's novel by Tim Kelly & the additional sound effects tapes
(which
the script lists as containing: "artillery fire, siren, helicopters,
Oriental song and music, telephone, howling wind, crickets, and gun
[link does not work]
It's worth adding to a MASH library or having a look at if you're
interested in seeing a stage take of MASH, (FYI: watered down). For a
smaller scale/budget production I think it would play rather well.
Maybe next year I can convince 'em to stage it, eh? :)
Enjoy!
B. Kelly."
Such questions as: was this a play "authorized" by Hooker? And since
it's apparently based upon the novel *not* the film or television
versions, I'm interested in how the characters of Hawkeye and Trapper
come across... yet another alternate reality for the 4077..!
Unfortunately, the link doesn't work, for what was apparently a full
posting of the script... perhaps a copyright problem? So many
questions... anyone have any answers/comments? A link to the play
itself..? Should be fascinating, at the very least.
I have a copy right in my hand right now. I'm trying to find out if theeres any record for the 1st production of it. It's a full length with 2-acts in it. And I would say this would be under rated for high school production comparing to SHERLOCK HOLMES that was written by Kelly. And apparently that play was paid by Royalty fees, $50 for the first amateur production and $35 for each subsequent use.
Tnamks for the information... after all these years I still haven't found a copy!
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